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Jonny wrote:Bioshock Infinite was kind of underwhelming on its first playthrough. I'll post my thoughts on it later.
too bad i have no idea how to play pokersomeguy3657 wrote:
If you preorder now on steam, you also get Borderland 2 and TF2 items, along with a copy of the first PNATI.
Oh, and that ending IS correct:
- Spoiler:
GLADOS is dealing.
I am getting this fucking game. It's only 5 bucks
Tacoline wrote:too bad i have no idea how to play pokersomeguy3657 wrote:
If you preorder now on steam, you also get Borderland 2 and TF2 items, along with a copy of the first PNATI.
Oh, and that ending IS correct:
- Spoiler:
GLADOS is dealing.
I am getting this fucking game. It's only 5 bucks
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Jonny wrote:Bioshock Infinite reflections, y'all! Spoilered for spoilers.
- Spoiler:
Well, I don't think it had quite the same impact that the original Bioshock did. On the other hand, the ideas that it deals with are simultaneously a lot subtler and complex than the other games in the series...
Okay, let's start at the beginning. The city of Columbia is an amazing location aesthetically. When you get your first glimpse of it it really does take your breath away, and being able to wander amongst other people in the beginning is a big step up from Bioshock 1, and 2 to a lesser extent. The "modern stuff in 1912" such as the Beach Boys reference is great too: much of what Infinite is about is pretty much just lurking beneath the surface, manifesting properly when you get to the raffle. I tell you, the raffle has got to be one of the most unsettling scenes in a game I've come across for a long time. I guess the thing I'm trying to get across is that Columbia is just as broken a place as Rapture is but it's not as apparent why this is so from the beginning. Which meant I felt like I'd missed out on the subtler hints on my first playthrough. I think it's a shame much of the commentary on America was passed over on what sometimes feels like a shaky yet interesting sci-fi plot. By the end Columbia's setting and aesthetics felt entirely superfluous to the main story.
Elizabeth is great from a gameplay perspective. I love how she finds stuff for you in battle and the Tears mechanic is really interesting. However, I've been re-evaluating her in light of Eurogamer's recent Bioshock 2 retrospective. Whereas Eleanor Lamb is more empowered and willing to take matters into her own hands Elizabeth is fairly passive until the end when she takes on an (arguably) uncharacteristic intelligence. I guess Elizabeth is taking on a much more powerful enemy, however.
I guess my biggest bugbear with the game is that the combat in the game feels undernourished, and many people have questioned its validity in the game at all. I think the combat is an acceptable part of the game- after all, the whole point of Columbia is that it's flawed and going to fall apart sooner or later- but it just feels like many of the Vigors are redundant or too similiar in their effects, and I've seen some complaints raised about the shield system. I think it straddles the regenerating/non-regenerating health argument nicely but I also sympathise with accusations that it discourages caution in the player.
Also, that bloody Lady Comstock battle. And the fact she's, what, the conception of Lady Comstock by Elizabeth? Good grief. She's not so much a character as a bullet point in a study guide.
I also wondered about the ending, but I think I didn't really get all its implications the first time around and so I ought to revisit it before passing judgement. However, I wondered: is it a done thing to change your name in the way Booker did when he got baptised? The whole "Booker and Comstock are two sides of the same coin" thing just felt a bit shaky.
I think I've held off on talking about this game as it's an experience that demands multiple playthroughs and examination to really appreciate it. As it stands, I think it's a brilliantly imaginative shooter that doesn't quite capitalise on all of its different elements to be truly excellent.
I'm looking forward to playing it again, though.
someguy3657 wrote:
If you preorder now on steam, you also get Borderland 2 and TF2 items, along with a copy of the first PNATI.
Oh, and that ending IS correct:
- Spoiler:
GLADOS is dealing.
I am getting this fucking game. It's only 5 bucks
yeah but you dont have a computerRarebug wrote:Jonny wrote:Bioshock Infinite reflections, y'all! Spoilered for spoilers.
- Spoiler:
Well, I don't think it had quite the same impact that the original Bioshock did. On the other hand, the ideas that it deals with are simultaneously a lot subtler and complex than the other games in the series...
Okay, let's start at the beginning. The city of Columbia is an amazing location aesthetically. When you get your first glimpse of it it really does take your breath away, and being able to wander amongst other people in the beginning is a big step up from Bioshock 1, and 2 to a lesser extent. The "modern stuff in 1912" such as the Beach Boys reference is great too: much of what Infinite is about is pretty much just lurking beneath the surface, manifesting properly when you get to the raffle. I tell you, the raffle has got to be one of the most unsettling scenes in a game I've come across for a long time. I guess the thing I'm trying to get across is that Columbia is just as broken a place as Rapture is but it's not as apparent why this is so from the beginning. Which meant I felt like I'd missed out on the subtler hints on my first playthrough. I think it's a shame much of the commentary on America was passed over on what sometimes feels like a shaky yet interesting sci-fi plot. By the end Columbia's setting and aesthetics felt entirely superfluous to the main story.
Elizabeth is great from a gameplay perspective. I love how she finds stuff for you in battle and the Tears mechanic is really interesting. However, I've been re-evaluating her in light of Eurogamer's recent Bioshock 2 retrospective. Whereas Eleanor Lamb is more empowered and willing to take matters into her own hands Elizabeth is fairly passive until the end when she takes on an (arguably) uncharacteristic intelligence. I guess Elizabeth is taking on a much more powerful enemy, however.
I guess my biggest bugbear with the game is that the combat in the game feels undernourished, and many people have questioned its validity in the game at all. I think the combat is an acceptable part of the game- after all, the whole point of Columbia is that it's flawed and going to fall apart sooner or later- but it just feels like many of the Vigors are redundant or too similiar in their effects, and I've seen some complaints raised about the shield system. I think it straddles the regenerating/non-regenerating health argument nicely but I also sympathise with accusations that it discourages caution in the player.
Also, that bloody Lady Comstock battle. And the fact she's, what, the conception of Lady Comstock by Elizabeth? Good grief. She's not so much a character as a bullet point in a study guide.
I also wondered about the ending, but I think I didn't really get all its implications the first time around and so I ought to revisit it before passing judgement. However, I wondered: is it a done thing to change your name in the way Booker did when he got baptised? The whole "Booker and Comstock are two sides of the same coin" thing just felt a bit shaky.
I think I've held off on talking about this game as it's an experience that demands multiple playthroughs and examination to really appreciate it. As it stands, I think it's a brilliantly imaginative shooter that doesn't quite capitalise on all of its different elements to be truly excellent.
I'm looking forward to playing it again, though.
Aww, thanks for the input. I've been researching the game before dropping almost 60 dollars on it. Is it worth buying right away or should I wait until the price drops?
Also;someguy3657 wrote:
If you preorder now on steam, you also get Borderland 2 and TF2 items, along with a copy of the first PNATI.
Oh, and that ending IS correct:
- Spoiler:
GLADOS is dealing.
I am getting this fucking game. It's only 5 bucks
Oh my gawwwd. Taco if I give you the money can you buy this for me?
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