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Re: Film Thread Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:05 am
Icriex the Hyperbolic
427 Re: Film Thread Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:51 am
Hollyღ
Dove in the Moonlight
They're MECHSUITS not robots!
(Looking forward to seeing this as soon as possible!)
Edit;
"Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental"
(Looking forward to seeing this as soon as possible!)
Edit;
Gorgro wrote:
That's what I thought when I saw the trailers/reviews too. Unexplained monsters showing up, story begins after years of war and destruction, one of the characters is the only one who can pilot a specific mech,... The mechs even sort of look like EVAs.
"Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental"
428 Re: Film Thread Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:35 am
Hollyღ
Dove in the Moonlight
Seeing Pacific Rim in just under an hour, I will type up a review when I return
Excitement levels: SO
Excitement levels: SO
429 Re: Film Thread Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:14 am
JT_the_Ninja
Ninjafleet Captain
Spoil nothing! I will probably see at some point. [ ]
430 Re: Film Thread Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:52 am
Samiam
There isn't anything to spoil. Giant mech suits vs monsters. That is it
431 Re: Film Thread Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:25 pm
SQUIGGLES
The 7th Wonder of the World
GOD DAMN I AM SEEING IT TOMORROW
I HAVE PICKED OUT MY LARGEST CODPIECE FOR MY OUTFIT
EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE BIG
BIG HAT
BIG PANTS
BIG SHIRT
BIG SHOES
BIG SOCKS
SESQUIPEDALIANISM
I AM GOING TO EAT BIG FOOD
CHEW WITH BIG BITES
I LOVE CAPITALISM
I HAVE PICKED OUT MY LARGEST CODPIECE FOR MY OUTFIT
EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE BIG
BIG HAT
BIG PANTS
BIG SHIRT
BIG SHOES
BIG SOCKS
SESQUIPEDALIANISM
I AM GOING TO EAT BIG FOOD
CHEW WITH BIG BITES
I LOVE CAPITALISM
432 Re: Film Thread Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:04 pm
Hollyღ
Dove in the Moonlight
I finally got done typing my Pacific Rim review - I tried to avoiding setting into to much detail so people can see and judge the movie themselves. I also had to edit so many times because I kept going on tangents about the Godzilla movies and Ultraman and how good they are oohhh
Also fairly spoil free but as always, read at your own accord.
Also fairly spoil free but as always, read at your own accord.
- HERETH BE WALL TEXT:
I believe everyone possesses a childlike admiration for 'man versus monster' narratives, and the appeal of Del Toro's Pacific Rim is built on that sense of wonder and fascination of experiencing things much large than ourselves. These 'things' in question are the Jaegers and the Kaijus - and much like the material it influences from, the movie premise is drawn around their grand encounters.
Gathering heavy encouragement from predecessors, Pacific Rim's foundation is detailed and defined, and in one word, ambitious. Your mileage may vary on how the purposely campy dialogue and characters resonate with you - it's a fun, simple concept of machine versus monster that pays tribute to anime, kaiju and tokusatsu and doesn't try to be anything more or less.
So being a hopeless fan of the Kaiju/Mech genre, I went in with expectations high. The opening narrative sets the immediate tone and mindset, concentrating years of backstory and information into the first ten minutes before opening up to the actual story, which wastes virtually no time with pointless exposition - those craving slow build ups and finely woven epics will feel shortchanged, but this is nothing new with the majority of Kaiju films. There is something of a concern for the pacing, however, as the movie introduces you to beautifully choreographed action before succumbing to slower-paced character building (leaving you longing for so much more) before finally picking up pace again full throttle.
Regarding the camera (which was my biggest concern going in) due to careful planning and forethought, what could have resulted in convoluted and overly embellished cinematography was refreshingly avoided - skirmishes felt powerful and monumental without cheap gimmicks such as shaky cameras or overused close-ups, and I got a good sense of scale due to clever camera angles.
Scale and height aren't the only things people should look for though - the amount of time placed into designing each Jaeger is something to admire. Each Jaeger has its own style based on who owns the Jaeger and for what purpose it serves. For example the American Mech, named Gipsy Danger, is painted and detailed to resemble a World War II fighter plane and is beautifully vintage~
Other countries have Jaegers such as China, Japan and Russia, but Australia's Striker Eureka and American Gypsy Danger might as well be dubbed the main characters of the Jaegers with how disjointed the screentime was. I couldn't even remember seeing Japans but it was listed in the movie. This is a huge problem for me as so much potential for most of the mechsuits were wasted.
The humans themselves inherently act as archetypes playing out painfully specific roles, vessels for the tropes they represent. The characterizations are cliche, but if you understand this is playing off older Kaiju films, you can appreciate the self-consciousness. There will be several moments however where the acting simply falls flat and making you desire better.
Without revealing much, the best part of the movie is arguably the last hour, with a satisfying ending. The monsters are exactly what you'd want from a movie of this caliber and if you can hold classic mech-animes and older monster films with high praise you will find worthwhile moments in Pacific Rim. Also, were you concerned about the CGI and animation? Don't be, I'd say it's near flawless.
TLDR;
Yeah, there were some flaws, but LOLDONTCARECAUSE;
GIANT MECHS PUNCHING MONSTERSIN THE FACE
GIANT MECHS PUNCHING MONSTERSIN THE FACEGIANT MECHS PUNCHING MONSTERSIN THE FACE!
- FOR SAM (MAJOR SPOILERS INSIDE):
- Samiam wrote:there isn't some "hero's journey" or any other formula to follow. no anti hero angst, no personal dilemmas, ect. ect. .
I respectfully disagree with you on these points...
>There isn't some Hero's Journey
I would consider Raleigh reeling over the death of his brother and fighting with the memory throughout the film to be some form of journey. Admittedly it's not your stereotypical formula but wasn't there some hero journeying from all the main characters?
no anti hero angst, no personal dilemmas
I might have been reaching with the "Heros Journey" bit but even you have to admit there was plenty angst from Chuck Hansen (the Australian jerk with a heart of gold and daddy issues) and all the main characters had personal dilemmas.
Gosh yeah everything else though was spot on, super hard excitement boner from the start ahhh
Hey hey favorite moment? Mine was when Gypsy Danger was carried into space and in true anime style brandished a sword, a fucking sword, and when Gypsy went to the aid of Striker Eureka and Cherno Alpha after they were overwhelmed during the bomb escort mission
433 Re: Film Thread Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:20 pm
Samiam
Hollyღ wrote:
- FOR SAM (MAJOR SPOILERS INSIDE):
I respectfully disagree with you on these points...
>There isn't some Hero's Journey
I would consider Raleigh reeling over the death of his brother and fighting with the memory throughout the film to be some form of journey. Admittedly it's not your stereotypical formula but wasn't there some hero journeying from all the main characters?
no anti hero angst, no personal dilemmas
I might have been reaching with the "Heros Journey" bit but even you have to admit there was plenty angst from Chuck Hansen (the Australian jerk with a heart of gold and daddy issues) and all the main characters had personal dilemmas.
Gosh yeah everything else though was spot on, super hard excitement boner from the start ahhh
Hey hey favorite moment? Mine was when Gypsy Danger was carried into space and in true anime style brandished a sword, a fucking sword, and when Gypsy went to the aid of Striker Eureka and Cherno Alpha after they were overwhelmed during the bomb escort mission
- For Holly, spoilers inside but who am I kidding? I know you will click this anyways:
I stand by my statements and allow me to present my argument.
The death of Raleigh's did indeed haunt him but it still didn't serve the role of the hero's journey. Raleigh admits that he still thinks about and yet when it comes to him climbing back into the pilot's seat it doesn't hinder him. He does not have to overcome it. It doesn't impede him.
I wouldn't call the conflict between Raleigh and Chuck to be angst. Chuck is indeed a self styled rock star and prima donna but his problem with Raleigh was not that he had so much a personal grudge it was that he though Raleigh was a liability to the mission since he was out of commission for years.
Chuck's issue with Raleigh as well as anyone's conflict (when presented) are very quickly resolved in short order. The conflict the characters face are far more important then personal issues and as such they are discarded by the characters. Haunted by memories of your brother dying? Traumatized during your childhood? Facing death if ever getting back in the pilot's seat? Ain't nobody got time for that, there are giant monsters needing to be punched in the face.
434 Re: Film Thread Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:17 am
SQUIGGLES
The 7th Wonder of the World
Just saw Pacific Rim yeah
I think that was the most disappointing movie I have ever seen; not because I was expecting anything walking in to see it but because while watching it I felt that it was so close to being so great that it redefined the kaiju/monster/robot/gundam genre but it fell just so short of the mark.
it's the average cool lazy giant robot flick
I think that was the most disappointing movie I have ever seen; not because I was expecting anything walking in to see it but because while watching it I felt that it was so close to being so great that it redefined the kaiju/monster/robot/gundam genre but it fell just so short of the mark.
- Spoiler:
- Music was really good. CGI was flawless. It was fantastic up until Gypsy Danger got tanked in that first scene. Then it started with the cliches and it was all a letdown from there.
Story was okay, I mean, it had a lot of finicky bits and I think they could've done a little bit more to suspend my disbelief but I can live with it okay, it was okay okay
I like that there wasn't a big robot charge at the end, that would have been so dull
I love that as it went along they lost more and more resources until at the end there was nothing left
I hate the escape pod thing
YOU JUST EXPLAINED YOU CANT GO THROUGH THE PORTAL IF YOURE NOT A KAIJU
COME ON
FUCK
seriously sick of forced happy endings
it is so hard to enjoy them
Look, it's a giant robot movie, I'm not expecting great character development but that was really poor. It felt like they knew they had a great idea that would draw people in so they half-assed the things they knew they could get away with. It didn't feel like they were telling a story to share, it felt like they'd made a movie to make money. Those were the most shallow characters I have ever seen. And pairing up the black guy with the asian girl seemed like such a shit attempt at diversity
I mean I can't think of any other movie that has black guys and asian women in love but you're not going to make it a popular trope if you shove in pisshead characters
Most wasted potential: asian Mary Elizabeth Winstead
Best actor: little asian girl
Worst actor: main character
I do not know what is up with this trend of putting hot guys in big roles solely because they're hot guys. Most of those hot guys have such poor emotional range i just
Also they're hot hot so it's hard to connect with them
I really would have liked it if they stressed the difference and fragility of humans more and the relationship we have with these giant robots we built to protect us
it's the average cool lazy giant robot flick
I don't think we saw the same film at allCube of Reason wrote:On top of all this, there is an actual plot to the film and the characters feel genuine and human, adjectives that could never Michael Bay's characters.
435 Re: Film Thread Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:45 am
Hollyღ
Dove in the Moonlight
Samiam wrote:Hollyღ wrote:
- FOR SAM (MAJOR SPOILERS INSIDE):
I respectfully disagree with you on these points...
>There isn't some Hero's Journey
I would consider Raleigh reeling over the death of his brother and fighting with the memory throughout the film to be some form of journey. Admittedly it's not your stereotypical formula but wasn't there some hero journeying from all the main characters?
no anti hero angst, no personal dilemmas
I might have been reaching with the "Heros Journey" bit but even you have to admit there was plenty angst from Chuck Hansen (the Australian jerk with a heart of gold and daddy issues) and all the main characters had personal dilemmas.
Gosh yeah everything else though was spot on, super hard excitement boner from the start ahhh
Hey hey favorite moment? Mine was when Gypsy Danger was carried into space and in true anime style brandished a sword, a fucking sword, and when Gypsy went to the aid of Striker Eureka and Cherno Alpha after they were overwhelmed during the bomb escort mission
- For Holly, spoilers inside but who am I kidding? I know you will click this anyways:
I stand by my statements and allow me to present my argument.
The death of Raleigh's did indeed haunt him but it still didn't serve the role of the hero's journey. Raleigh admits that he still thinks about and yet when it comes to him climbing back into the pilot's seat it doesn't hinder him. He does not have to overcome it. It doesn't impede him.
I wouldn't call the conflict between Raleigh and Chuck to be angst. Chuck is indeed a self styled rock star and prima donna but his problem with Raleigh was not that he had so much a personal grudge it was that he though Raleigh was a liability to the mission since he was out of commission for years.
Chuck's issue with Raleigh as well as anyone's conflict (when presented) are very quickly resolved in short order. The conflict the characters face are far more important then personal issues and as such they are discarded by the characters. Haunted by memories of your brother dying? Traumatized during your childhood? Facing death if ever getting back in the pilot's seat? Ain't nobody got time for that, there are giant monsters needing to be punched in the face.
- For Sam Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers Spoilers:
>when it comes to him climbing back into the pilot's seat it doesn't hinder him. He does not have to overcome it. It doesn't impede him.
Again, I must respectfully disagree. Every character I believe had inner strife they had to deal with throughout the movie but for now I will just focus on Raleigh and his brother.
In the beginning Raleigh is clearly confident and perhaps cocky with his piloting abilities. After the incident with his brother he goes out of commission and is hesitant to return to the Jaeger program once he is summoned again.
This is already showing self-doubt because the pain he feels over his brother. As he tells Mako, "I was still connected to him when he died. I felt his hopelessness, and then, nothing."
But the most damming moment is probably when, once finally inside Gypsy Danger after his long hiatus, he falls out of sync with Mako because he sees her as his dead brothers ghost, resulting in Mako to fall into her own memories which damn near destroyed the whole docking area. I would say this is fairly hindering.
You're right, he is haunted by his brothers memory, but it does also cause many conflicts with him and it does cause questions as to if he is fit to pilot. He does have to end up overcoming what happened to his brother, even if its "Can't deal with this now, monsters to fight." No matter what the reason, he still concurs his doubt and pilots once more.
>Chuck's issue with Raleigh as well as anyone's conflict (when presented) are very quickly resolved in short order.
It does feel this way, however- Chuck's issue with Raleigh is continuous up until the near end of the movie. Mako doesn't get her character resolution until one of the final battles ("For my family!") and Stacker's reluctance to let Mako go ("You're not protecting her anymore, you're holding her back") holds up until the final ride.
I left this out of my review in fear of spoiling something for someone but it seems to me the real problem is that it feels like they heal much to quickly for us to feel any attachment for them, and yet their issues are brought up frequently through the movie as if they are unresolved. Might be an issue of characterization?
Main point is, I believe it's misleading to write off their personal dilemmas as non-existent.
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- For Sasha (SPOILERS):
- >Squiggles Music was really good. CGI was flawless. It was fantastic up until Gypsy Danger got tanked in that first scene. Then it started with the cliches and it was all a letdown from there.
The soundtrack and CGI were surprisingly well done for a movie of this genre yes yes. I believe the cliches were intended but it's the delivery of the dialogue that doesn't allow the cliches to work.
>Squiggles I love that as it went along they lost more and more resources until at the end there was nothing left [...] I really would have liked it if they stressed the difference and fragility of humans more and the relationship we have with these giant robots we built to protect us
Right, fuck. I was looking for more of that helpless human element which the loss of resources, funding and volunteers did nicely, but the mind-melding with the robots themselves lost their mystery and intimacy once Raleigh and Mako seemed to effortlessly bond together.
>Squiggles Look, it's a giant robot movie, I'm not expecting great character development but that was really poor. Those were the most shallow characters I have ever seen.
Yesyesthis is part of what I was trying to stress:
The humans themselves inherently act as archetypes playing out painfully specific roles, vessels for the tropes they represent. The characterizations are cliche, but if you understand this is playing off older Kaiju films, you can appreciate the self-consciousness. There will be several moments however where the acting simply falls flat and making you desire better.
Clearly they were aiming for the feel of older Kaiju while forcing the modern feel, but it fell awkwardly between the two ideas.
>Squiggles And pairing up the black guy with the asian girl seemed like such a shit attempt at diversity
I mean I can't think of any other movie that has black guys and asian women in love but you're not going to make it a popular trope if you shove in pisshead characters
Hahahaha*
I agree with you on the little Asian girl nailing that performance. It was probably the most beautiful and haunting scene in the entire movie.
What was your opinion on the Australian characters (Father/Son team Herc and Chuck)? They were my favorite characters and I love their heart-wrenching moment towards the end of the movie (one of the few good moments of acting and dialogue in my opinion). I thought their accents sounded exaggerated and stereotype but I'm obviously not a good judge on the topic.
>Squiggles it's the average cool lazy giant robot flick
That's all it advertised itself to be - Giant robot/monster melee that gives callbacks to popular Mech animes and Kaiju films. It's really hit or miss how well they did, I personally like it for what it is as it satisfies my craving for the genre.
436 Re: Film Thread Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:12 pm
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The 7th Wonder of the World
Hollyღ wrote:
- Spoiler:
- Spoiler:
- Their accents were more outback Australian, especially with the token dog character. I thought it was accurate enough. I was impressed with the way they got the Australian attitude down pat: "oh we're gonna die, let's shoot flares into the giant monster's face", that seems like something we'd do yeah
I think that classic Australian humour is becoming rarer, though, in the real world, as we become more Americanised.
I feel like they were good actors but the dialogue didn't let them show their potential properly.
437 Re: Film Thread Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:46 pm
SQUIGGLES
The 7th Wonder of the World
fuck pacific rim
discussion over
begin Wizards discussion
discussion over
begin Wizards discussion
438 Re: Film Thread Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:55 pm
Hollyღ
Dove in the Moonlight
Oh. Oh, damn. There you go again, stepping on my lines, raining on my parade, costing me medals. Oh, damn.
440 Re: Film Thread Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:00 am
Ziggles
THEY'VE KILLED FRITZ! THOSE LOUSY STINKIN' YELLOW FAIRIES!
443 Re: Film Thread Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:11 am
Icriex the Hyperbolic
And you thought Pacific Rim was Evangelion-y.
444 Re: Film Thread Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:11 am
Hollyღ
Dove in the Moonlight
"Godzilla Encounter" at Comic-Con - small model of the updated Kaiju
445 Re: Film Thread Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:40 am
Samiam
I am stoked at the pretense of a new godzilla movie done right!
446 Re: Film Thread Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:20 am
Gorgro
Glorious Leader
YES GODZILLA YES
WHY HAVEN'T I HEARD OF THIS MOVIE BEFORE NOW
SO SEEING THAT
WHY HAVEN'T I HEARD OF THIS MOVIE BEFORE NOW
SO SEEING THAT
447 Re: Film Thread Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:31 am
Hollyღ
Dove in the Moonlight
THIS CANNOT COME SOON ENOUGH
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Legendary's Godzilla (2014) will be featured at next week's San Diego Comic-Con and today, the first official plot synopsis for Godzilla has been revealed, on Comic-Con's schedule for July 20th, when the Godzilla preview will take place.
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Information about the Monster Godzilla will face off against in Godzilla 2014 is still unknown, but going by reactions of attendees of the Comic-Con Godzilla 2014 teaser footage [...] smoke rises and we pan upwards to see a faint image of Godzilla's head as he lets out a thunderous roar - the iconic Godzilla roar.
Fans have speculated and at times and even worried that Legendary and director, Gareth Edwards might fall prey to the shortcomings that 1998's Americanized Godzilla attempt had.
But this is definitely NOT the case with Godzilla (2014). Legendary and Gareth Edwards know how to make a real Godzilla movie, and come May 16th, 2014, Godzilla fans and general audiences around the world will have a new respect and adoration for science fiction's most iconic giant Kaiju monster.
It's been common knowledge now for a while that Legendary Pictures is planning something BIG for this year's panel, and it involves everyone's favorite, radioactive Lizard - GODZILLA. But what exactly are they going to show us and what exactly has all the viral marketing meant so far?
Legendary launched an official website, called The Godzilla Encounter, which tracks fictional news stories surrounding sightings of a massive creature under the sea. Sounds like Godzilla doesn't it? Since the viral site's launch, they've been releasing a number of images, which are meant to look like screencaps of news stories on various fictional website news outlets
- news stories on various fictional website news outlets:
The new official synopsis confirms that there will be multiple monsters facing Godzilla in the 2014 reboot!
- Description of new Kaiju;:
We can assume that Godzilla will be facing some kind of Centipede-like monster, or some form of giant insect or spider.
Viewers of the Godzilla 2014 teaser footage at Comic-Con 2012 claim to have seen curled insect legs... lots of them!
Legendary's Godzilla (2014) will be featured at next week's San Diego Comic-Con and today, the first official plot synopsis for Godzilla has been revealed, on Comic-Con's schedule for July 20th, when the Godzilla preview will take place.
- Current, official Godzilla Plot Synopsis & exclusive screenshots/set leaks:
As Gareth Edwards' Godzilla (2014) continues filming in British Columbia, Canada, a selection of new set photos have hit the web, courtesy once again of YVRShoots. The new Godzilla set photos show off what looks to be a Japanese Nuclear Power Plant meltdown, which affects the neighboring towns
An epic rebirth to Toho's iconic Godzilla, this spectacular adventure pits the world's most famous monster against malevolent creatures who, bolstered by humanity's scientific arrogance, threaten our very existence.
- Filming of GODZILLA MOVIE OFFICIAL TRAILER SCENES:
448 Re: Film Thread Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:04 am
SQUIGGLES
The 7th Wonder of the World
wowIcriex the Hyperbolic wrote:
And you thought Pacific Rim was Evangelion-y.
I am awestruck
Where did you find that?
7.7/10 from 34 users on IMDB
wut
449 Re: Film Thread Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:08 am
SQUIGGLES
The 7th Wonder of the World
12 Angry Men
This is less sexy than I was expecting it to be.
Gosh this is so good
Literally one room the whole movie
The way they all get progressively sweater
definitely in my top favourites
This is less sexy than I was expecting it to be.
Gosh this is so good
Literally one room the whole movie
The way they all get progressively sweater
definitely in my top favourites
450 Re: Film Thread Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:41 am
Icriex the Hyperbolic
SQUIGGLES wrote:wowIcriex the Hyperbolic wrote:
And you thought Pacific Rim was Evangelion-y.
I am awestruck
Where did you find that?
7.7/10 from 34 users on IMDB
wut
I found it on r/evangelion.
I didn't realize it had an IMDB page. It doesn't seem like the movie's actually going to get made. They made the trailer on a budget of $1200 in hopes of getting noticed by a studio that could provide proper funding. It doesn't seem like that's working. I think they should try kickstarter.
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