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26 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:42 pm

Ugh. I just pirate games that require Steam. (Usually. Sometimes you cant use mods on the pirated version.)

I freely admit this. Steam sucks.

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27 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:21 pm

TTBM: There was this guy on FB. He was commenting on a picture of a bunch of dead wolves, killed by people.

He was saying things like:

"god made animals to help man, and yet they are the beasts of burden.. it is our destiny to maintain and over see the animals of the earth making sure that those that are usefull become plentiful and those of little value fall into obscurity"


"no, god knows whats best and god wants us to have a free capitalistic republic, and the invisible hand of the market will decide which creatures are useful."


"as a conservative, a engineering student, and my dream is to create a self sustaining space station, id say 'eco-system' is a bs leftist term like 'global-warming'"


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28 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:32 pm

People like that give us Creationists a bad name

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29 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:50 pm

I will say that God made the animals to be under our dominion, and they are only a highly renewable resource, but that guy is an utter idot.
As a Christan, a scientist, a conseritve, and a dreamer, all like him, I can safely say he is a complete idot.

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30 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:52 pm

Katls Nalcrato wrote:*glare*
I will say that God made the animals to be under our dominion, and they are only a highly renewable resource, but that guy is an udder idot.

(I couldn't resist.)

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31 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:58 pm

TTBM: I think my mom smashed my iPod. I may be kicked out of the house here soon. This isn't good.

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32 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:00 pm

Wow. What happened?

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33 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:01 pm

Homework, and lack of doing it.

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34 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:03 pm

If your mom is willing to throw you out of the house over it, do it.

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35 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:06 pm

That's a little harsh over not doing homework.

I mean, really.

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36 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:47 am


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TTBM: this. []

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37 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:19 am

Taking away all race factors, I just want to say that these ignorant ass fucks deserve to spend most, if not the rest of their lives in prison.

EDIT: Oh my God, these fucking comments man. These fucking comments.

"Hmmm. You suspect that the kid might have set himself on fire, then blamed the proverbial "black bogeyman?" I hate to say it but you could very well be right. Does start me thinking. Wow. I hope he doesn't just choose two black kids to blame. Hmm again."

"Ever since Obama was elected it has been "payback" time for blacks to get even with whites for all the "injustices" done to them in the past. When will they get over it? Too bad they couldn't just be grateful that they don't live in Africa and appreciate all the blood that was spilled in their behalf during the Civil War. Who even remembers the Civil War? Who even remembers what life was like before the Civil Rights movement? They think things for blacks are as bad as they've even been and will always be that way, so it's time for payback. But you know what? It's time to get over it and move on. With Obama as POTUS it will never happen."

"This would never have happened in my neck of the woods. Get a rope and make an example out of them. Just another SICK problem caused by Craven Liberals. This Poor kid got torched because your Scared to death some loser is gonna call you a racist."

"WHY has this NOT been reported on the Leftie's beloved CNN and MSNBC??? FEAR. That's why."

"See the black folks are here jumpin' up and down defending the indefensible. Go 'head! Rat on! Idiots."

"If this happened to people I knew there would be some burnt crispy chicken eating mother *** at the hospital. Yep I said it. Pieces of *** I tell you, big pieces. And yes it is a hate crime. But oh god forbid if it was two whites and a black, shiiiiit this would be all over MSM. Stupid *** Abe Lincoln."

"If that were my child on my porch, I would have shot and killed those two worthless POS's right there. This nation is becoming more and more dangerous with black youths attacking white kids, but the media is largely ignoring it. If the races were reversed here and two white punks lit up a black kid and saying to him "you get what you deserve black boy" when doing it, don't you think we'd hear just a TAD BIT MORE FROM THE LIBERAL MAINSTREAM MEDIA ON IT??!! Not only yes, but HELL YES. The double standards from the liberal media - and the left in general - over race issues in this nation is appauling and alarming. I have purposely set aside $10,000 in cash to use for more weapons and ammo buying this November should Obama get re-elected. It's going to be worse if he's re-elected, and it may in fact be all out rioting if he's NOT re-elected."

"I agree. If two whites teens did this to a black youth it would be all over CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC, NBC. The radio. And there would be a million man march. I would not shoot the kids because if you did they would make you the victim and the blacks would march on your house. I would put the kids fire out on his face and then try to hog tie at least one youth. Be cordial with the precious black teen, with respect. And then call the Police. But today the blacks are not getting long sentences. and the black judges let them go free."

"If anyone wants to set up a march in the New York area, I will be happy to attend. Reverse racism and the liberals who facilitate and pander to it are CRUSHING the country."

"Why must everyone try to make excuses, claim black kid's would ONLy want to steal from honky? You might enlighten yourself about this school, school district and it's history, and the neighborhood it's in. My halfwit half brother was harassed and jumped many times over 25 years ago in same school and then at the area votech just because he is white and not in with any black groups, gangs, or others with some cred. Anyone who says they haven't faced rascism more than once in a black neighborhood, either while living there, working there or just visiting hasn't spent much time at all in a rough, mostly black 'hood'. We have had many reverend Al wanna-bes, school board race based power brokers and race baiting newspaper scum here over the years and it never ends. You combine this with the acceptance, or at least none castigation of both overt and wink and a nod racism by blacks against asians, whites and hispanics in much of the black community and this is not surprising in the least. You through in Rev Wright. the O's actions and his AG, you can see the message sent to young thugs: Whitey is always wrong, and you can do what you want with small consequence, as they will make excuses for your justifiable anger at 'the man'. Why don't you chickensh87*t whie libs and black race brokers go down in these communities and try and help these guys BEFORE they become predators attacking anyone, black or otherwise, if they think they can get away with it. That community and that school needs a lot of strong God-centered men to set an example and be willing to risk their own lives to bring some REAL hope for the many lost young men before they reach this level. I have done the same in KCK, over the years, and been threatened along with my own son's more than once, even to the point of having one of my son's jumped by a fellow player on the team I was coaching just because he was bumped while running. Why was this boy so sullen and angry at white kid's? Talking to his dad for 2 minutes made it obvious, and he would probably make comments just like many here and was not that much look down on by his compatriots. So, maybe some of you should look in the mirror to find your own worst enemy, as many of us have realized, and try to keep our children OUt of old grudges and grievances."

"Don't expect President Obama too call this kid with His Condolences---because the perps were African American & the victim was white---nough said"

"I am sure the SPLC will post this on their website, pronto, right? Oh...... I'm sorry, the boy was WHITE. NEVER MIND..................... "

"The kid's last name may have had something to do with it. That being said, this is proof that welfare recipients should be sterilized. The 2 buck niqqers that did this should be hung with a rope from a tree. It's beyond time that the free ride should come to an end. We are paying the bill for feral humans to r a p e and pillage at will, and they live better than most working Americans."

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38 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:34 am


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TTBM: the whole gay marriage debate going ahead in the UK. Today we had the lovely cardinal Keith O'Brien comparing the introduction of gay marriage to the reintroduction of slave labour. Seriously?

I also think the argument about it going "against natural law" and whatever bullcrap other people are shouting is such a weak argument. Who is to say what we should and shouldn't do with our lives? The fact that we live in brick houses, use electronic equipment and don't follow religion rigidly in Western society suggests we moved beyond what was "natural" a long time ago. I really don't believe there is some underlying system separate from society that we must adhere to or...what, exactly?

At the end of the day, marriage is essentially a way of legally and publicly expressing your love and devotion to another person. What does it matter if the person I fall in love with has a penis? Why is my relationship somehow less valid? I don't particularly care if people cry that marriage must only be between a man and a woman, or be for the purpose of procreation, and I suspect the law doesn't either. The arguments against gay marriage largely seem to be coming down to some gut instinct about what should be right and wrong and rigidly accepting religious doctrine as fact, regardless of anything else.

EDIT: Oh, and another thing.

Cardinal O’Brien wrote at the weekend: “All children deserve to begin life with a mother and father; the evidence in favour of the stability and well-being which this provides is overwhelming and unequivocal.”

How exactly does gay marriage not make this the case? Are you talking about adoption? This is assuming that every child up for adoption gets placed with a loving heterosexual couple. If this isn't the case, what disqualifies homosexual couples from adopting and loving a child just as much as a hetero couple?

Just to clarify, and I'm willing to be proven wrong on this particular point, do we have concrete evidence that being raised by homosexual parents is damaging? I would also ask what we would consider better: being raised in a children's home throughout your early years or being raised by a couple of adults who really love you and care about you. Not sure how much of a factor this is, but still.

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39 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:52 am

You're right Jonny. While myself, personally, thinks of marriage as..... well, idiocy, I respect that other people dont.

If people want to get married, let them. Not allowing gay marraige just flat out goes against the Constitution. Well, in the US anyway.

I'm not familiar with the UK's Constitution...

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40 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:53 am


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I'm not entirely sure we have one, to be honest. The ins and outs of British law are something of a mystery to me.

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41 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:57 am

British Pretty-much-everything is a mystery to me...

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42 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:00 pm

You getting offended at someone else's marriage is the same as getting offended at me for eating oreos while you are on a diet.


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43 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:00 pm



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44 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:09 pm

I can almost understand the relentless pursuing of the resistance, the brutal empire, and the megolamania, but dammit Rare, you just crossed a line that should never be crossed.

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45 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:11 pm

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46 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:32 pm


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Oh, dear. Rogert Ebert has posted another inflammatory comment about videogames.

The game in question was Dark Souls, apparently.

I'm inclined to slate Ebert for a number of reasons. First of all, I get the impression he's going into the experience with a somewhat closed mind, although obviously I can't say that for certain. Secondly, if you're new to a medium you don't jump into one of the most challenging and complex examples of it from the offset and expect to get everything out of it.

When we do English Literature we don't jump into the most difficult texts first, and when we do read texts like Shakespeare we do so with a lot of supplementary material: heck, reading texts like Shakespeare at degree level comes with a load of footnotes to explain the vocabulary changes. Similiarly, are the first films we watch Blade Runner or Citizen Kane? Is the first music we listen to Mozart or Beethoven? Then why should we jump in at the deep end with videogames? What exactly is the rationale for doing this? Why do you assume you will go into this experience and appreciate every nuance or even be able to appreciate the challenge that the game enjoys?

I don't particularly enjoy reading a lot of literary theory but I recognise it has value and significance. Similarly, I didn't enjoy Blade Runner or understand everything it was trying to do but I'm not going to dismiss it outright. Therefore, I would not hasten to call something "soul-deadening" when I have little or no knowledge of the medium. The fact the game exists and sells indicates there is a proportion of people out there who value it. Are these people idiots? Uncultured? Not necessarily. Is the game pointless just because I'm not equipped to enjoy it?

What games did we start playing? Many of us, I imagine, didn't grow up in the days when games were ridiculously hard: I would argue that the playing field has been levelled somewhat, especially with the advent of the Wii and iOS. The first games I played were Rayman, Spyro and Sonic the Hedgehog. Rayman was not, in the later stages, an easy game but it was by no means the hardest game ever conceived. Similarly, Spyro walked a good line between challenging and surmountable. It was these experiences that I cut my teeth on and it was more complex and challenging experiences I moved on to as time went by. I faced challenging sections but I also faced gentler ones.

Nowadays, in many ways the thrill is in the chase and not in the capture, so to speak: I enjoy the challenges that games present me and get annoyed when they're too easy and it's these that I go into rather than the ending cutscene. It's what diminished my enjoyment of Kingdom Hearts 2, for instance: all too often it veered between too easy and way too hard. Later games like Birth by Sleep and 358/2 Days maintained this balance a lot better, I think. The ending held value in that it was a reward for overcoming the challenges that preceded it.

Dark Souls is a game for veteran gamers. It's a game for people who want a rock-hard challenge and are well versed in the videogame universe. I wouldn't use it as an introductory title in any situation, just as I wouldn't make Hamlet a child's first reading book. So for Ebert to jump in from a frankly inexperienced, naive and prejudiced position comes across as immature, foolish and inflammatory. I would love to hear his views on a game like Super Mario Galaxy, Portal or Bioshock: games that either embody solid yet accessible gameplay or examine the concept of gameplay itself. That try to be something more than a shooter, or a puzzler, or a game. That try to say something, however flawed or irrelevant or frivolous that might be.

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47 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:48 pm

Stealing a crocoduck's cookies! THAT'S LOW, EVEN FOR YOU, RARE!

Also, to quickly go back on the whole gay marriage thing, personally, I'm not against gays getting married. True, I have a religion, and religion says that homosexuality is a sin and whatnot. But, unlike other Christians, my religion (LDS member, otherwise called Mormons) is truly strong on the "love the sinner, hate the sin" thing. We don't immediately say that gay people will burn in hell, because that's quite rude, frankly. Nah, we accept the gay community as who they are. And, to me, I honestly don't mind if someone's gay, so long as they're not trying to shock or are completely flamboyant in it.

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48 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:57 pm

Manly McEngineshell III wrote:I'm not entirely sure we have one, to be honest. The ins and outs of British law are something of a mystery to me.

Well the UK have the Canadian constitution.....

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49 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:59 pm

I honestly don't mind if someone's gay, so long as they're not trying to shock or are completely flamboyant in it.

That's pretty much the same for everything. I've said this quote before and I'll say it again.

"Having a lifestyle is like having a penis. It's alright to be proud of it, but don't go showing it off and for God's sake, don't shove it down children's throats."

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50 Re: TTBM #4? 5? I don't even- on Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:05 pm

@Jonny: I hate it when stupid old people go into games with no experience and then judge all video games by that one.

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